NO4> Joining of small kolhozs (russian mesurement for land), the way of prosperity in Socialistic country side
NO5> American freedom
NO6> I will win
NO7> Our moto, freedom for all people, glory for the heroes
NO8> All the kolhozs will grow, deputat – man of/from the people
NO9> Comparison of the schools in SSSR (top of picture)and USA (bottom of picture)
NO10> Equality of woman in SSSR
NO11> To whom the incomes go, in SSSR to workers (in left corner: to capitalists)
NO12> Feel free to say what is wrong in production (on work)
NO13> Glory to Stalin the Great
NO14> Every new day is better for living
NO15> Two states, two plans
NO16> They are risein death
NO17> Let live and help each other Soviet and yelow people (Chines)
NO18> I’m looking forward for new ideas
NO19> Wor that good that Stalin says you THANK YOU
NO20> Give your best at work
NO21> Dear Stalin, happynes of people
NO22> no text just picture
NO23> 21 dec 1947
NO24> People does not want peace if it will bring new war
NO25> I work for people
NO26> Speculation – help devil
NO27> Years for prosperity (percent of people that are for unity of states in SSSR and USA) also in left corner is wrtten CRISIS
NO28> With knowledge of LENIN Snipers shoot from distance but allways hits the target
NO30> I give my contribution
NO31> left side (in kapitalism: pathway of ones with flair) right side (in socialism: give chance to ones with flair)
NO32> Europe union: it is clear that price on “unity” for dear is: smile on face, nice words/language, in mind plan, stabed in the back (it is rhyme, but i can not translate it to be rhymed)
NO33> from the beggining of GREAT OCTOREB (october revolution in russia)for the glory of socialistic country side household
NO34> Speculation – devils work
NO35> Great Stalin intimates witd people in SSSR
NO36> Weave better it will be better in the end
NO37> Learn abou great ways of politic party Lenin-Stalin
NO38> WE (SSSR) Make meadow from deserts THEY (USA) make deserts from towns and villages
NO39> Ladle – frend of the soldier
NO40> Soviet court – court of people
NO41> Collect goods of people
P.S. These traslations are correct 95%, because I learned russian language for 8 years but I forbit it leate so I’m not shure for the meaning of few words.
P.S.S. If you need anything else (or any other poster taht you add later) to be translated send it to my mail and I will try to help you.
I’m sorry folks, but don’t be letting your pining for ‘days of yore’ cloud reality. Stalin was NOT a great leader. He was a flawed leader who murdered millions of people. His reasons for doing it are his own, some say he was paranoid, some say it was necessary for the ‘good of the country’ but whatever the reason, it doesn’t change the fact. If you have to kill millions of people in order to enact your policies, then your policies are flawed. The ends doesn’t justify the means and the fact that Stalin’s 5 year plans dragged the USSR into the 20th century and helped make it the power that it was, does not excuse the killings. Lets not forget that…
You should ask men in the street who lived there and other ex communist countries. In my opinion, these pictures stand for madness of a an atheistic system where personality cult prevailed with all other foolishness
just ask me i still live in Ukraine, post soviet country, and i lived in soviet reality, but at the end of soviet imperia!
That was a bit scary and quite different than now. However i see that there are no difference in people’s mind. Mostly methality pays a big role in how country leaders are good or bad and all other valuables!
Stalin was not good but he was not that bad, eve today you have people that fight for theirown goal (that is all he did) once he said:
“People that supports me because of fear I make inchargge to the people that supports me because of simpaty, why? THE FEAR IS PERMANENT, and simpaty can disapear”
Stalin was a madman.It’s a fact! And because of him SSSR was hell!
But not every comunist country was bad.
for example yugoslavia was very liberal!In yugoslavia you could buy anything americans could buy,go anywhere you like, listen to rock,wear jeans,etc.etc.
I don’t have to tell you anything: Which comunist country has ever attack anyone?Which comunist conutry has ever had colony?not even one!So,it makes me sad and angry whan i hear people who have never lived in a comunist country (normal comunist country) and talk everything (bad) about comunism, but don’t even now how is to live in a comunist country…
Well, the ideology is no longer relevant today. Older generation just want to leave the past and move on. The younger generations makes them fashionable.
—the artistic quality and great art of these “posterists”, this capacity of generating a proletkult momentum- that carries away even today… they were talented in their way… (one can do the same with psoter of the Hitler time..)
AND
—the messages some are just scary (e.g. with boltun..)
AND
— the manipulation and the real state of affairs at that time..
have the posters without the gulags, the “sud naroda”… is better no matter how good the posters are.. and stalin- no matter how talented (and cruel ) a leader- is better under ground in his grave than alive..
how many people have no grave because of his deeds?
These posters are shining examples of an era of social justice and prosperity, cut short by the great patriotic war… You have been taught to believe that Stalin was a monster, as have many. But history, and the grim reality of life in the post soviet world has shown people just how selfless, benevolant and caring a man Joseph Stalin was. To mention but a few of his achievments-
The enormous leap foreward in living standards, industry and agriculture during the years 1924-1941 are enough evidence of what is portrayed in those posters.
Western propoganda has done its work on you im sad to say.
quote-”have the posters without the gulags, the “sud naroda”… is better no matter how good the posters are.. and stalin- no matter how talented (and cruel ) a leader- is better under ground in his grave than alive..
how many people have no grave because of his deeds?”
if you were to add up stalins “deeds” you would find that he among other socialists were (pretty much alone) responsible for the defeat of genocidal german facism..
The USSR was garbage. If it was so great Russia would have come out with all the economy still intact. The USSR was kept afloat in the 1920s and 1930s by the west. American businesses invested billions into the USSR’s economy at invite from Lenin and Stalin. Aid ships from the USA helped feed the people. All of this is public record now. 20 million were executed. Smarten up. If it was so great than there was no reason for it to collapse.
I AM LOOKING TO BUY SOME PPOSTERS FROM THE SOVIET ERA BUT MORE LIKE I THINK SOVIET REALSIM (MUSCULAR WORKERS WITH FISTS UP IN THE AIR). CUOD YOU HELP?
tX
pIERRE
i think stalin was not a great leader because he killed loads of people.. and communism did’t work at all. he was manipulating russian people by using propaganda
but by using the five year plans he made USSR modern industrial country
Stalin was a paranoid and inhuman murderer, and it is a great tragedy that the Communist experiment had been hijacked by him. He was however a ‘great’ man, and certainly was a contributing factor towards victory once the Great Patriotic War was underway due to his iron will and cunning.
25 million people died in Stalin’s purges, and the famines created by a poorly implemented collectivisation. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if someone like Kruschev had ruled Russia earlier. Maybe there would have been a little more justice coupled with the strategic genius.
There were many heroes of all walks of life in Communist Russia, but Stalin was a monster behind an avuncular, smiling face. His body lay dead in his locked office for 3 days because none of the party dared barge in, in case it was some obscure loyalty test set by their leader! When they finally did, their first move was to pre-emptively arrest Beria, the head of the Secret Police, knowing that he would do the same. What followed was the saner, wiser rule of Kruschev – a man who could still be brutal (Hungary), but desired the best for Russia.
Thank you for posting these propaganda posters though – they are indeed works of art. My fave is the one of Stalin and Mao shaking hands.
I am from Greece. I became a communist whaen I was about 20, some 13-14 years before. Too many reasons for that. But I can recall tht, before the fall of USSR, the world and especially my neighbourhood (the Balkans and near East, Arabia etc) was much more peacefull, with the exeption of Palestine (where Israel did what US wanted to, and still does) and the war between Iran and Iraq (well, Sadam was a good friend of US then…). And the civil war in Lebabon was an attempt of Iasel and US to control more of the area. But, now, Killing is nothing, racism groes, nationalism too, not to mention poverty not only in the ex socialist countries, but also in my country (20% of the greek population according to the official statitics are poor). So, yes, I believe that USSR was better than today (really, those ex USSR citizens who live today in the US, what can they say for their people now that they see them dying homeless and from cold?).
-is it true that communism was the greatest experiments of humankind? – yes it’s true, but could you experiment on animals next time, please? –
seriously – I lived through it, it’s bad, unjust, disfunctional, immoral, period.
You people really need to learn some history! Seriously, don’t open your mouth if you dont know what your talking about. Don’t dare disgrace the soviet union, YOUR AMERICA WOULD BE NOTHING, TECHNOLOGY NOTHING!! get on your knees and thank them, or be sent to Siberia and die! You are all western hypnotized. Really d u think the USA is any better?? you dont think they kill inocent peple and jail 2 million people per year. PLZ, ur accusing STALIN and them for INDUSTRILIZING RUSSIA, MAKING IT A BETTER PLACE, WITH COST OF LIVES YES. BUT a true communist would not be a traitor like you, your all disgraces to your past!
EXPERIMENT OF HUMANKIND ILL GIVE U EXPERIMENTS KIDDO, you are so brainwashed, plz dont compare AMERICAN EXPERIMENTS, YEA U CALL THEIR STUFF MORAL?? ILL SHOVE A LCMB UP UR ASS.
I have to get this pissed when i see RUSSIAn traitors, disgraces, deserve to be exiled to Siberia and rot in hell, where all the rest of the americans r going, and hell with you all.
nazi posters, buddy i bet you have ancestors that r german, BUT UR SOO STUPID!, get a brain. and no communism is not nazism, thats just cold war bullshit like u, ur worthless and deserve to get hanged
if we travel back a bit i agree with wat nostalgia gone mad said. To all those who say Stalin did great things, well he did in fact do something the czars and others Bolsheviks couldnt and wouldnt do which is turn an agragarian country into a world nuclear superpower in about 25 years, that takes skill. But he did this at the cost of killing over 40 million+ innocents from shootings to slave labor in gulags and other camps (usually is Siberia). He did beat Hitler, but he was also planning on starting a massive world war with the capitalist so hes not good old uncle joe. Then WISE (note of sarcasm) Khruschev and a few other notables had him offed and took over. Staling managed to completely destroy the will and bring fear to a 1/6th of the world and its inhabitants, he was not insane, but he was an evil, merciless son of a bitch with alot of personal problems and serious case of megalomania (tho not an overpowering insanity.) If you think his end (a world superpower which is based of fear, murder, and killing those who oppose you to keep the GLORIOUS system of communisim running) is worth the cost of countless millions of lives and the destruction of cultures and nearly the massacreing of jews (he died fortunatley before this plan could go) and rewriting history, literally, then u are the ultimate pragmatist and stupid dumbass. If you are undecided agree his government sucked and so did communism, but can’t help but look at the benefits he did do for the area and the world (hydrogen bomb, a world technology race) and a powerful Russia (before the USSR) then your in my shoes. Oh the posters are awesome but are a perfect example of PROPAGANDA used to make people think your place and you are awesome, HAVE ANY OF YOU READ ANIMAL FARM, or as a matter of fact any book on Stalin which utilizes information which was not “official” (ie tampered by Stalin and the government to make him look better, or in later cases worse)? Capitalism has its flaws, but it sure as Hell beats communism. if you dont agree spend 20 years in a labor camp in Siberia and tell me if you change your mind.
all yal r on crack ya noe dat.stanlin was a madman and dat need to be stoped he killed many inosent ppl.so if yal think he still is a good man den bukar off u f.o.b bec really if u all think dta den maybe yal should be thrown in jail and sent off to siberia and be miss treated and exiled.u dim wit dumbshit bumakrts lowlife ugly stanlin wannabes
Im from Argentina, here, like the rest of Latin america, we had dictators who killed a lot of people in the name of patriotic interst fighting against comunism. They murderer man, woman and childs…. the most of them just workers or students… and all was a US order…
USA kill a lot of people in iraq and afganistan everyday… now they are planing to go against Iran…
USA killed people in Panama, Salvador & Nicaragua….
USA went to Vietnam with all his fucking napalm and killed inocent people… on a war that originally was not against USA…
USA droped 2 nuclear bombs after japan already surrender just to show he`s power to the wolrd…
USA has propaganda on hollywood movies, on CNN and every newspaper…
Everyday millon of people dies because of they have no food… (thanks capitalism)…
So… YES STALIN, killed a lot of people… he was not a saint… but who is?…..
Churchil? Eisenhower?…. Reagan?… BUSH?…
Thanks for the posters…. and pls guys… in this world there are no good Leaders… just victims
USSR collapsed because it was too good to be true. Ask the fool us citizens (do not call them americans, america is the whole continen)
I am from Mexico, US people brought shame and pain to my country, they stole half of our territory but that part obviously does not appear in their damn story of civil war, independence, and apollo 11.
And they dare to speak about liberty, SURE PEOPLE! YOU SPEAK ABOUT LIBERTY! WHEN YOU LIVE IN THE ONLY PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE LIBERTY IS JUST A STATUE…
Stalin is the greatest bastard among bastards, he had a very close relation with Hitler. He and Lenin go to hell as a result. It was him who massacre 30 million people, it was him who become a bloodthirsty demon by powers. He was also a traitor to his party, corrupt the original Marxism (Marxism is never a viable ideology). I hate the poster “Liberty in America”, it reverses the truth, in fact, that poster reflects the liberty of the so-called Soviet Union.
Capitalism and Democracy are the best society that humanity could boast, since it was invented from ancient time, has a deep root in human nature (Although it contains some weaknesses.
I Love Russians and Russia, I hate Russian Socialism and Communism!
Communism and Facism are monstrosities of humanity, are indignities to our civilisation.
USSR COLLAPSED BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A MONSTROSITY OF HUMANITY.
Existing the world map since 1917, apart from its victory over the facism, whad did it contribute to this world, if we don’t count a number of scientists who consistently make new invention to our world. Let I tell you, it contributes terrors to this world, it contributes famine to this world, it contributes loss and damages to itself. It betrayed its original ideology (As you research USSR economy, you will see). A country in which it contradicts its creation, how can it exist when it lost its point of origin.
A country built by dictatorship, built by tears and lives of million people, how we permit such a country exist.
Hei, The Scientist, tell me if USSR is too good, why it collapsed. Its deteroriation in fact has stood out since there is no direct attacks from USA, there is no external factors strong enough to break its “goodness”, why it still collapsed. Over one night the country you call too good fell apart, left behind a mess, a set of disorder factions. USSR’s death did not carry its brutality to its final grave, war within its formers still prolong. That is what you call “A GOOD, AN IDEAL COUNTRY”. You ask who, ask americans, ask French, ask Hungarian (Where I was born), ask Rumanian, even ask Russian, they will give you the same answer “USSR and Communism all gone, they dug a great grave to burry themself 18 years ago, and now, their record filled with crimes and dirty mystery.
What did USA become, yet it still stand like a rigid wall? What did USSR become, yet only within 74 years it falls apart, dissapear like smoke?
Hei, don’t speak of Liberty as if you thoroughly understand it. I don’t really understand it either. But I can tell you one thing, USA, despite of its influence to your country, despite its terror to your country, still the motherland of liberty. France, where the great Revolution occured, struggled itself 100 years to find what it tried to achieve before, whereas USA, where European powers considered as one of the most inferior land, stand up like a great brother protect the definition of Democracy and Liberty and finally force this earth to call its name in every-day conversation. USA, of course it is not paradise, but it was where people of other countries admire and dream of.
Look at the way the USSR imposed their control on my country. What did we do, yet we had never known the word “Liberty” until we kicked out the Communist Party. My country deserved to become a model of Democracy, Capitalism and enjoy wealth that our civilians day and night labour for. What did we do, yet the Russian Communists encroached us, enslaved us. What did the Czechs do, yet in 1968 it was Brezhev who insult my neighbour value. When we could not stand the brutality of Communism, we stood up. Then we endured the suppression of our rotten government, supported by the USSR. We fought side by side with USSR to expel the Facism, and that’s what they treated us after they used us like fruits in a basket.
Hei, don’t speak of Vietnamese war as if you know everything about it. My friends are Vietnamese refugees. It was the Nothern Vietnam who encroached the Sountherners’s country, violated the Paris treaty signed in 1954. What wrong did Southern Vietnamese do, yet they lost their own country. Why did they have no right to become a capital country like many others, could you explain that for me.
Yes, Americans dare to speak of Liberty, yes, it is a statue. But that statue was made by blood, tears, griefs and sorrows from their farthers, so you should see it with a respectful sight. And you know what, while they’re singing the Libery song for this world, We want them to know that they aren’t alone, since, we, Hungarians, love our country like they love USA, like you love Mexico, like we love Russia in our fashion, understand the value of Liberty and Democracy. That’s the only path of our destiny.
Yes, these posters are awesome, but not because of their colour, not because of their contents, but because they are eye-witnesses, they are evidences of a darkest episode in human civilisation.
It’s funny that there are still those who glorify Stalin. These people should have listen their own citizens. I met one Russian woman who said that “Stalin and Hitler were like two evil brothers”
People should have listened to Khrushchev who hated Stalin or Gorbachev who wanted to end Stalin’s fame! Gorbachev said that “we cannot glorify a man who killed millions of his own”
Stalin killed Ukrainian people, Estonians, Finnish, Latvians and his own people. Stalin also made a pack with nazis in 1939 but it was called of when nazis invaded Russia in 1941. Stalin also killed his best officers in 30’s so Russia could have lost the war because of that. And that’s why they succeeded so badly in the war of terror against Finland in 1939-40.
Pekka, Sweden
Not bad, if you are not a native Russian, though I found a lot of mistakes in your translations. The following are my corrections (in the brackets are my insertion for better understanding what the poster is about), the numbering of the posters is yours, unchanged:
#1 Work like Stalin teaches.
#2 {Vote) for the happiness of the (Soviet)people (pre-election poster).
#3-Forever together!(pictures a Ukrainian Cossak and a Russian warrior of 17 century, the poster was made in 1954, to mark the 300 year anniversary of Russia-Ukrain Union Charter, 1654). your translation is totally wrong
#4 The translation is correct, but… “Kolkhoz” is not a measure of land. It stands for “collective farm” (kollektivnoe hozyaystvo)
#5 “American freedoms” (the poster illustrate how they(in the USA)have freedom of press, opinions, personal (life), demonstrations)
#6 “We will defeat the draught too”.(Stalin with the map of the planned irrigation projects)
#7 (The poster dedicated to the Battleship “Potyomkin” upprising, or mutiny, whatever. There was such an event in 1905 revolution).
#8 “Deputy (elected representative in the legislature (Soviet) of any level) is a servant of people”.
Your #16 is part of # 15 (”Two worlds-two plans”. “We (Soviets)plan for life”. “They (capitalists, the West)plan for sawing the death”.)
#17 “Long live the unbreakable friendship and cooperation between the Soviet and Chinees people” (depicts Stalin and Mao)
#20 “Stay vigilant!” (at you work place), kind of, watch for the enemies, like spies or saboteurs
#24 “The people of the world do not want the distructions of another war!”(against military blocks like NATO)(cited Stalin).
#27 “Years are the same, the results (”weathers”-for rhyme)are different”. The poster compares the economies of the USSR (growth) and the West (crisis, decline)
#28 these are two different posters; First -is a pennant with Lenin-Stalin profiles, the text says: “Under the banner of Lenin and lidership of Stalin, let us head forward, to the full victory of Communism!”
The next poster is a verse about a sniper. “A sniper shoots from distanse, but always hits the target”.(military poster, to be hanged at the Soviet Army clubs, barracks etc.
#39. I like how you translated, but the text says: “A shovel is a friend of a soldier”. (Military poster, means “be able to dig a “fox hole” to cover youself, have shovel).
Thanks Ignor for your much needed correction. Your translation finally reveals all the beauty of these posters.
I spit blood when I hear “if soviet union was good, why did Russia go bad?”.. It is like asking, if having laws are good, why did people start killing after laws are abolished? Or, if being alive is so good, why do you stink so much when you’ve been dead? C’mon people, Soviet union is what made Russia the great nation it cannot be today. Anyone who refuses to see that is a hypocrite who plans more wars, just like these posters would suggest.
The Russians are a very proud bunch. But they’ve got no concept of what individual freedom means (at least those who’ve never been outside of country). They’ve been under a thumb forever. And today is no different under Putin.
The Soviet Union “experiment” (if you can call the murder of millions of its own citizens an experiment) was a gross failure. It denied individual freedom, period, for the supposed glory of the common good (the State) – though in reality it was simply for the glory of central power of that State.
These posters serve nothing but the memory of the cult of personality himself, the man of steel, the pig who sentanced 27 million Russians to die in WWII after signing a pact with Hitler so that he could invade Finland.
Despite being under the thumb of a central power for its entire history, Russia has produced some of the most beautiful bodies of work (art, music, literature) in the history of man. Its people are unlike any other in the world. They embrace their indentured servitude to the state, while simultaneously beautifully create what we in the West think can only come from a free-thinking independent person. (No, dear Russian, you aren’t from the West).
Russia will never be a part of the West. Nor will she ever be a part of the East. Russia is an island unto herself, where slavery to the state will forever be embraced, where freedom will never be fully understood and will be never fully accepted, and where beautiful music, art, literature, dance etc…will continue to be produced, on account of this servitude.
Folks,
Many of you living in the West (not all, thank God, but many) have been badly intoxicated with the Cold War anti-Russian propaganda. Even to the present day. What amazes me most is how easily you Westerners have been readily getting beguiled by your venal mass media! We Russians, too, had our Soviet style propaganda during the Cold War, but we were rather more skeptical about all the anti-western stuff which the communists tried to feed us up with. The reason was that we reckoned Europe to be almost a paradise and the United States to be a full paradise on the Earth. Which is why we did not trust our communists when they used to tell us that there were a lot of hungry and homeless people in the West, that millions of Westerners suffered from unemployment and many even from misery. We laughed at such stupid (as we believed them to be) insinuations.
As we ourselves in the Soviet Union had had no unemployment at all (since 1932!), nor homeless people, nor such misery like some people have today, so we would think: ‘There cannot be unhappy people in the Paradise (i.e. in Western Europe and the USA). We won’t be duped with the dirty communist propaganda!’.
But when the ‘Iron Curtain’ had fallen, and we had got full access to the true information about the Western World we felt appallingly surprised with the revelation that all what the communists told us had proved to be true!
It was a great disappointment!!!
For example, it was really stunning for us to learn that the West had become atheistic without any anti-religious oppressions, while we Russians had retained our Orthodox Faith even through all the trials and tribulations.
20 years ago I myself was a rabid anti-Stalinist. Since then my views have changed significantly, owing to my many-years-long historical researches. In this regard I invite you, folks, to get acquainted with the views of another former anti-Stalinist — a great Russian writer and thinker Alexander Zinoview, on: http://www.russian-victories.ru/zinoviev.htm
Now I can clearly see that all the fantastic fables and scary myths about Stalin and his time are a mere crock.
Yes, Woogie (see his post above) is absolutely right — we Russians have never been, nor we are, nor we will ever be a part of the West.
Thank God — we are Russians!
Absolutely fascinating from a political ideal that I could wish for. I am British, and would love to see Britain as a Communist country. We are a clone of America – inequality, crime, discrimination, poverty. None of these would exist if we became communist.
Bearing in mind I was born during the latter stages of the Cold War, and can remember how communism was perceived as “bad” and Western Propaganda, films like Top Gun, Rambo III, Rocky IV and so on made the Americans heroes and the Communist Russians/Chinese the villain.
I love these posters, thanks to whoever posted these.
As I understand, the USSR during Stalin’s time was a prison. However, the USSR offered the only alternative to the racist policies offered by the USA and the British Commonwealth’s South Africa. If patriotism blinds the researcher, here is a truth… the USSR offered a way for the Latin Americans to free themselves of the racist business practices, they offered a way for black Africa to fight back the racist South Africa government…
It is unfortunate that most USA citizens do not understand how racist and ugly their country’s business practices are, exactly as some of these posters portrayed the USA.
Stalin was a Hero you people know nothing. NOTHING you read your Capitalist/Imperialist propagganda and are so gullible to believe every word you read. STALIN WAS A GOOD MAN! This threatens all you have been taught in your American classrooms Stalin Killed 35 million people BULLSHIT! this number was made up by the American Imperialists they were the enemy it makes sense the Soviets did the same. But the FACTS show that Stalin was a good man yes some people did die but they were traitors, fascists, or Imperialist scum. If what I have said means nothing to you FUCK YOU because you know nothing and should be sent to a Gulag in North Korea. Mao Zedong is a great man also the Chinese people love him and adore him the AmeriKKKan propaganda machine tried to discredit him but it wasn’t possible because Mao was a good man and the Chinese people did not receive Revisionist propaganda denying that fact. The only reason Stalin is a Taboo topic is because he was made into being a monster which simply isn’t true. Thank you
-Kazimir
“Workers Of The World Unite!”
Stalin was a monster. Some of the posts on here are disgraceful. Who the hell cares that agricultural ability improved greatly under Stalin? He killed 20 million people to do it! This monster purged all of his generals and sharp military minds because of “political unreliability”. Most of these folks were innocent, and this paranoid mass murder was almost fatal-lacking military leadership (they were all in Kolyma mining gold, or in Siberski counting trees)Hitler pushed all the way to the Volga. Political whores were in charge of artillery units more concerned with ensuring the unit was sufficiently “communist”.
The lunacy that is communism appears to be making a comeback. Why? It doesnt work! Socialism and Capitalist regimes cannot co-exist. Eventually the ideolgies clash. And most folks dont want live in drab apartment blocs, stand in line for food, and not have access to cable. Communism sucks, guys. Nobody who has ever experienced free will, can ever give it up. And socialism takes free will away, or tries to. It also stifles individualism.
America isnt perfect, but it’s still the best place in the world to live in and being American is at the top of the heap. And we are that way because werent stifled and opressed, we had the free will to make it this way.
Cardina is a great example of American brainwashed masses you think you are free HA! America seems to be free but when you speak out or want to change something you will find yourself in a prison camp. Your American political system is corrupt you try and police the world. you invade countries because you don’t like their leader. Fuck USA
So Trotskij, the Koryaks and all other native Russian ppl (to mention a few) were fascists an criminal scums? I don’t think so! But still they were murded and the natives denied their culture and way of life!
Both Comrade Kazimir and Cardinal4 are definitely brainwashed, each in different ways but nevertheless heavily indoctrinated. I for one wouldn’t stay a day in their Utopias, coz it would be my Hell on Earth. Stalin concluded the treaty with Hitler to split Poland up and Finland was attacked coz they didn’t want to renew the tenancy for Hanko where Soviet had a base. Stalin was a egomaniac brute who didn’t for a moment considered the well of his people. None of the Russian leaders (except Gorby and Peter the Great) have ever had a thought of the masses coz otherwise todays Russia would be a leading power in many fields. It’s my believe and hope that the Russian ppl one day will gain control of their own destiny.
Thanks to the poster of posters and much obliged for the translations.
Stalin was a murderer, people were poor, starved and lived their lived in fear.
Peasents lost lands , they were 10 times more exploited then in USA and capitalist countries ( where at least they were paid well ), workers tried to leave and work in USA, and so on.
Just be happy Stalin and communism are dead, and let`s hope they remain that way. Long live freedom, private property and business !
Comrade Kazimir, you say we are brainwashed ( i`m not even from USA, i`m from europe )… let`s see :
1) i own a company with 12 workers, working for me… strange, nobody stoped me
2) i can go where i want to spend my holidays ( last summer i was in miami luxury place ).. hmm.. that was NOT possible under stupid communism
3) i can say what i want about anybody
4) i can own lands as many as i want
Under stupid communism i can`t do nothing, but be poor and work work work..
FUCK COMMUNISM !!! STAY THE FUCK DEAD !!!
P.S. : in china there is no real communism, there are business man everywhere, and land owners, LIKE IT SHOULD !!!
everyone should just shut up! i mean seriously… anyways cheesecake is really good its yummy and good in all the ways ou can think of, isnt that crazy???? yea well stalin is dead and in hell FUCK IT!
You Capitalist idolizers make me laugh. You have no evidence to prove your anti Stalin claims. You can see though the American propagandist numbers presented to say Communism killed many people. Stalin was surrounded by jealous people that wanted the power and to be the leader of the Soviet Union for their own personal goals. Stalin benefited nothing from being leader of the Soviet Union his only goal was to make the people have a truly classless society but when you have so many enemies and your country gets ruined by war and threatened by American Imperialism then you have to build a strong army and fight against the aggressors. Do you think the Koreans didn’t want a united Korea under Kim Il Sung? You seem to forget that the US set up a puppet government called South Korea. When the Koreans tried to unite the Americans came in and stopped them. For what reason? To protect their interests not because they cared about the Koreans. They just wanted to stop the “Reds” from expanding. And look at the blood on their hands now because of not letting them unite the North Korean people do not have the farming capacity to feed their people after the great floods. Why? Because North Korea is mostly a mountainous region of Korea. South Korea has most of the farm land. You Brainwashed Americans and Europeans would believe its Kim Jong Il and his government starving the people LIES! its US aggression causing the deaths of these people. Unlike Stalin you Amerikkkans only want to protect your way of life and wouldn’t let the revolutionary torch go around the world. Let me name places that you have caused the Deaths of hundreds to Millions of deaths because of your policies. Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam ,Nepal,Bolivia,Greece. to name a few in the end what is your kill count how many foreign people have you needlessly killed in the name of “democracy” and free market. Stalin had his peoples best interest in mind. Amerikkan leaders have their interest to stay in power in mind. All people are Proletariats in America beside the ruling class. What part of the portion of the population is ruling class 1%! everyone making 500,000 dollars or more a year is ruling class they are making money off the workers hard labor! This is truly the disgusting system. Also Communism is not died their are many movements across the world and revolutions happening at this very moment.
Kazimir .. i lived under a communist regime also , 15 years ago, and then i was POOR, i didn`t own lands, company with 12 workers, and the luxury car i own now.
So.. LONG LIVE CAPITALISM , AND COMMUNISM, STAY THE HELL DEAD !!!!!!
WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE TO KEEP THE COMMUNISM DEAD !
And Kazimir, i wish you lived in a communist country, to see how it`s life with NO MONEY… what`s the use you are not explited, if you don`t have money to do anything ???
Try spending a summer in hawai or miami, and see the true benefits of capitalist life.
I`m not talking from any propaganda, FUCK PROPAGANDA, i`m taking from experience with my own life.
What do you have to say Kazimir ? Still for communism ?
You were living in bad revisionist country. Communism died in Eastern Europe and Russia after the death of Stalin I am sorry you had to live in the corrupt part of the USSR’s history
Not that i care so much .. but, just from curiousity, if stalin was such a good man, :
1) why did he had his personality cult ? ( this is very SELFISH , to idolize yourself as a god, only tyrans do it )
2) why did he took the lands of the peasents and business from nice business man ? ( i`m a business man, and i would find it very bad for somebody to take my lands, buildings, etc. )
3) why did the peasents starved during the colectivization ?
4) why did they oposed colectivization ? THAT WAS A CRIME AGAINST THE WORKING CLASS !!
5) how about the low wages ? Under stalin, many people from EAST GERMANY passed to WEST GERMANY TO WORK !!! The working class wanted to work in the capitalist countries, because EVEN IF THEY WERE EXPLOITED, THEY WERE PAID 10 TIMES MORE THEN IN A NON-EXPLOATATION COMMUNIST COUNTRY !!!
6) what about the NOT HAVING FREEDOM part.. if you said anything bad about stalin, you would have been shot, the soviet people lived in fear ! That is not a life !
7) And finnaly.. what about the SIBERIAN GULAGS ? Only a monster has goulags !!!
The same questions ( except for 5 ) goes for mao zedong.
I think, without any propaganda, adviced, etc… from my own opinion , that both Stali n and Mao were MONSTERS ! And communism is a blood thursty monster also !!!
I LOVE CAPITALISM, I HATE COMMUNISM.
What do you communists have to answer to my questions ? do you think you can answer them ?
Raulsmen, you must vote for slavery and feudalism. The law of these systems would allow much more to you. Can you just imagine the benefits of these lifestyles!
The businessman profession is cheating people. Communism is not for such bad people. Stalin was the best man in the history. He created the greatest public wealth for 300 mln people in 25 twicely building up a new country from the ruining wars.
I am certainly not a cheerleader for capitalism, being a Trotskyist myself. Capitalism certainly has a LOT of blood on its hands(Slavery, the extermination of Native Americans, violence against labour unions in the 19th and 20th century, colonialism in Africa and Asia, globalization and the rape of the environment today), and needs to be overthrown. Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky were great men, but defending Stalin makes my stomach turn. Trying to deny the millions of people he killed is a left-wing form of Holocaust denial. The evidence against this monster is overwhelming, given the opening of the Soviet archives in 1991. To all those calling themselves communists:
-How can you defend starving 10 million Ukranian peasants to death-men, women, and children- because they resisted Stalin seizing their land, land that they had won under Lenin’s New Economic Policy?
-How can you defend throwing millions of people in concentration camps(gulags)as bad as Hitler’s, torturing and starving and shooting them in the icy wastes of Siberia?
-How can you defend Stalin’s massacre of the entire original leadership of the Russian Revolution, men like Bukharin, Zinoenev, and Trotsky? It would be like if in our own Revolution a leader had risen to power that killed Washington, Madison, Jefferson, and Hamilton.
-How do you defend Stalin’s pact with Adolf Hitler, so he could gobble up a chunk of Poland?
-How can you denounce ‘imperialism’, when Stalin himself engaged in imperialism, forcing pro-Soviet governments on the people of Eastern Europe after 1945?
Raulsmen I wrote a very long post about why Stalin is such a hero but it was deleted and a also realized something you being a Capitalist simply makes you arrogant and ignorant to the suffering and slavery of the working class in AmeriKKKa. You are the Ruling class you make money you live the dream that 99% of Americans don’t have have fun with your money but when the people do rise up you and your corrupt business partners are first on the list.
Also COMMUNISM IS NOT DEAD
Their are many movements around the world some are even conducting revolutions as we speak such as Nepal. So shut up because as long as you make your blood money the workers will fight against Capitalist ruling class ran governments all over the world.
Samuel all I have to say is you are just repeating like a nicely trained parrot Nazi, Capitalist, AmeriKKKan, Western European anti Communist propaganda that has been feed to you in school and entertainment. Trotsky was crazy his ideas on Communism were Crazy! He was denouncing Stalin because he simply wanted the power. Stalin was a great man all the supposed crimes he committed can be easily debunked
Why must you Capitalist sympathizers give me some proof of your arguments so I can simply debunk them? You Amerikkans are so naive to world history please pick up a book that also goes to all stupid people of the world READ! so that you don’t swallow the shitty propaganda that your government read
Contrary to a widely held view, communism did not collapse for internal reasons. Its collapse is the greatest possible victory of the West. This colossal victory has created a planetary power. The end of communism is also the end of democracy: our era is not only post-communist, it is also post-democratic.
This is because democracy means pluralism: that requires the existence of at least two more or less equal powers.
During the Cold War there was democracy at world level, a global pluralism within which capitalism and communism coexisted.
Now we live in a world dominated by a single force, by a single ideology and by a single globalist party. The Western countries are dominant but they are also dominated, because they are progressively losing their sovereignty to what I call ’supra-society’. This planetary supra-society consists of commercial enterprises and non-commercial organisms whose zones of influence are superior to those of nations. The Western countries are subjected, like other countries, to the control of these supranational structures. But the sovereignty of nations was a constituent part of pluralism and democracy at world level. The present dominating power is crushing sovereign states. The process of European integration which is taking place under our eyes is causing the disappearance of pluralism within this new conglomerate, to the benefit of a new supranational power.” [Figaro-Magazine, 24th July 1999]
Kazimir , i don`t live in america.. i just go there from time to time, to sign up a contract with one of my clients, that`s all… i live in europe. So stop you`re predifined ideas that if someone is capitalist, he must live in USA.
And i don`t care if stalin was a hero, or a monster.. it doesn`t matter, he`s dead, the communism is dead, we live in a new world now. The world we live in today it`s way diferent from the 1917 world, no revolution is possible today, nothing can overthrow the capitalism regime today, because people live a happy life, there are villas, luxury cars, businesses everywhere… , life is way better then the one communism offers, nobody wants communism ( except for some stupid workers, with no studies, no education, that are gealous of people that were smart and knew how to make money ).
Even if the capitalism regime will be changed by revolution, i won`t be here to see it, because this will take a very long time, and it won`t happen sonner then 2-3 life times, so.. i`m very ok.
Capitalism rulles, freedom rulles, business and making lots of money rullez !
your posts really make no sense please pull your head out of your ass you have no evidence to explain your claims and just pick and choose what you wish to respond to. If all you can say is Capitalism= Good Communism= Bad then please stop posting because I get your ignorant point. If you would be interesting and explain your position and why you believe what you do maybe it would be interesting to read not just ” I am Capitalist I make money Freedom Freedom Freedom free market blah blah blah Death to Communism”
Ok kazimir, i`ll try to exaplin it to you… In communism , there is no freedom.. you can`t have business, you can`t travel to cool capitlaist countries ( like miami, hawai, etc. ), you can`t own lands, you can`t own a villa (just a stupid apparttment, the state gives to you), you can`t say something about about the regime or the lider ( because you`ll go to jail ).. how can you admire such a world ? Such a tyranhi ?
Under capitalism, i was a worker ( i worked in web development, for a big company ), and i evolved until i opened my small company ( it was just me, and a friend ), and we developed it .. and now it has 12 coders, 4 designers , and the profit from it was enough for me to buy a 52.000 euros BMW and build a villa… also, i used the money to buy a land, with i rented, then i opened a small fast-food store near a students campus, and so on.. there is NOTHING CORRUPTED IN THIS !!! It`s fair work, and fair money… that`s why i love the capitalism so much, because i live in a villa, i drive my sweet BMW , and i can afford what ever i want.
How can communism give people a chance like capitalism gaved me ? I showed you the best example i could, myself.
Also, for people like Valentin.. business does not mean cheating people, business it`s just something THE WORKING CLASS IS TOO STUPID TO DO , only smart people have ideas, open stores, create quality producs to sell, do transport, etc… what can it be corrupted in my having a fast-food store ? Or owning a web development company ? I`ll tell you what.. the only thing disturbing you is that i make in a month more then a worker makes in 3 years… but there is nothing corrupted, i was simple smarter then him, and now i`m getting paid for this, for having ideas and stuff, not wasting time like you do , reading and bragging about communism, and communist revolutions ( that never happens.. kazmiri : nepal sucks, who cares about them, they minority… and when they`ll see the face of communism, they will turn arround very quickly to capitalism ( like 1989 ).
In capitalism, smart people make lots of money, stupid workers live stupid lives… it`s very simple.. communism is for stupid people who are gealous of rich people, that`s it.
Kazimir, Valentin.. nothing to reply ? That must mean you agree with me , you must see the benefits of the cool capitalist system ( not the gealous-based communism one )….
Kazimir, have you driven an audi last model ? ( i`m not talking about excesive luxury, like ferrari or lamobrhini ) , but a simple 60.000 euros audi … it`s like heaven , with you`re stupid communist ideologies, you will never have you`re own audi, or live in a villa ( an appartment can`t be called home.. only from villa you can call it home trully, because that`s real life )
Soviet leaders was living like kings – they have had a power of hidden monarchy. They was able to afford thousands of cars and planes and be served by millions of slaves.
Disregarding all other aspects of these discussions, a free and public debate, unencumbered by censors and threat of incarceration (at the least), would not have been possible under Stalin. The current thread of discussions would have been very one-sided, indeed.
The translations that HoBak provided are horrible, actualy every poster says something to motivate people to be a real patriot of his country to do it good and right and has actualy nothing to do with communism, its exactly the same patriotism feeling that americans try to create in their states. Help your country in a good way, be fear and respect rights of all people. Communism accent is only brought in to this because of the cold war politics and dirty games in strugle for more power.
Stalin was a bitch, he was not even russian maybe thats why he took it so hard, so be carefull whan you choose Obama, but you dont have to worry the democracy system in america would not let it happen if they dont want to. Great system!!!!
Don’t forget that nothing last’s forever, thats why communism wil come after socialism that comes after imperialism. Imperialism is started already, and as Karl Marx predicted it started after democracy.
we learning about the USSR in history..and i can tell u RIGHT NOW stalin was an idiot. i can’t believe people still support some one who murdered so many people for his own gain. Sure, it’s fine to have a goal and work towards it, but why kill people in the process? It’s disgusting. Stop justifying his actions. And in case u HAVEN’T noticed – communism HAS NEVER WORKED!!!! Work for yourself, but don’t lose touch with your human nature by being greedy. Hope Stalin is burning in hell.Bastard.
Damn i dont really understand communism?!?
my teacher doesnt no how to teach properly. but from what i understand it seems like living hell:(
and i dun wanna live that
The real test of the desirability or stability of Soviet-style communism is which side of the Berlin Wall people were fleeing to, and which side they were fleeing from.
(Here’s a hint: it wasn’t built to keep out the capitalist pigs.)
The same can be said of the USA today. It’s fashionable to claim that the American ideals of individual liberty and prosperity are a lie and that the US is “evil” and “imperialistic” and, let’s not forget, “fascist” (an epithet that displays a complete lack of understanding of fascism), but, it’s funny, everyone and their brother is still trying to get in.
Stalin was indid a good leader of his people during his geneation. For us in the so called non dictetorial nations, I am sorry, we can not attain any meaningful development cos we don’t want to dis obey our colonial master. we can not be part of the super power cos we con’t have nuclear station. Americans will never allow us. Kodus to Stalin the Great.
Are these posters (and maybe other similar posters)under copyright? I mean: is it possible to save them or download them? Otherwise, is it possible to order (buy) some?
Joseph Stalin was a great leader. He worked tirelessly for the cause of the revolution, brought the Soviet Union out of the figurative stone age, industrialised the Fatherland, turning it into a modern world super power. Comrade Stalin led the Soviet Union to victory in the Second World War, he came to the resuce of the West, defeated Hitler and saved the world from Nazism. He is the hero of the 20th century and the reason we are free today. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ni/Stalin_1902.jpg
Hey! You don’t know anything about USSR!
I’ll tell you, because I was born there? and them I saw with my own eyes what happened in reality.
When in was USSR everything was censored/ But there were no really pour people, and a lot of really rich people.
For example, you in United States can work whole life and still never buy your own home.
When it was USSR you didn’t have ot buy or pay for shelter, because it was free? and to have you own appartment you had to work aruond 5-10 years and then get it for free. And before that you still had free place to live.
There were no homeless. If a peson worked he never had problems.
I can tell you thousand thing like this that makes USSR country for safe living. But I just don’t have time for that. Just believe me.
Thanks God my mother get her own appartment when it was USSR or unless we would me fucking poor and homeless.
Now ytou can only buy appartment and it’s fucking expensive (watch yourself) and only few people can efford it.
Why the country doesn’t exist any more?
I’ll tell you 1000000% truth! Because of some greedy people who saled themselves to US to destroy USSR. Now they are fucking rich, they own everything in the country that was build with soviet citizens (they didn’t pay anything to buy it, just stole it).
Everything you know about Russia and USSR is mean propaganda. Never listen to it, if you’re not stupid.
I have some friends from US who had opportunity to work in Russia and they understood everything and never believe what they hear in US. And they never voted BUsh.
Sorry for my English.
1. It seems most/many of the posters and their translation do not now match up. I took two years of Russian a long time ago but it seems to have disappeared.
2. some pictures are missing–#35, 23, 9, 26,13, 11, 28.
Appreciate the information. I certainly would recommend the 1996 book entitled “The Black Book of Communism” authored by a group of French writers (did they catch grief from their French communists/socialists).
Hello, I’m from Russia and I’ll tell you one thing. We are two different worlds. We can be friends or enemies, but you’ll never understand us. You live in the black&white world, but the world is more interesting and various.
What can you know about life, if you never chewed the tar?
Chto vy mozhete znat’ o zhizni, esli vy nikogda ne zhevali gudron? Proklyatye kapitalisty.:=)
Let’s calculate the number of deaths during Stalin’s time as head of state, using some data from previously closed archives (Fun Stuff Indeed):
1: Variation in Population = Births – Deaths + Immigration – Emigration
2: Deaths = War + Famine + Forced + Natural
3: Delta Pop = Births – (War + Famine + Forced + Natural) + Immigration – Emigration
We will calculated the amount of deaths between 1926 and 1951,
using the assumption that the birth rate was a constant of 2 000 000 people / year.
Please note that this is an average of the entire Soviet Era, and it is
probable that this number was lower during the famine and World War 2.
We also use the modern estimate of about 4 million deaths due to the famine.
Other Important Numbers:
1- Population of June 1941 includes 20 270 000 in territories annexed by USSR in 1939-45 net of population transfers.
We will consider this as immigration.
2- World War II Losses were 26.6 million; Total war losses includes territories annexed by USSR in 1939-45.
Evidently, forced deaths could not have been too high, otherwise there would have been virtually no natural deaths!
Keep in mind that the earlier industrialization of European countries and the United States of America had even greater numbers of deaths (especially due to colonialism, slave trade and the genocide of the Native peoples) albeit it was on a longer period of time.
If I have made an error in my calculations please correct it and post the corrected equations.
i was born three years after stalin’s death and remember those types of posters plastered around[mostly in government offices].they elicited nothing but boredom.don’t forget that they hang along posters reminding you to wash your hands and not to litter.
June 29th, 2006 at 10:42 am
Great stuff… grew up with some of them.
One small correction, most are from the post war era of later 1940s and early 1950s.
June 29th, 2006 at 11:14 am
Well, i agree. They are from 46th ~ 50th
June 30th, 2006 at 1:34 am
thanks God we dont live in the soviet past
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June 30th, 2006 at 3:43 am
Can anyone translate these?
June 30th, 2006 at 4:27 am
i will work on translation – text will be available next to images
June 30th, 2006 at 8:56 am
I’m already starting to feel some sway toward fighting for Mr Stalin.
July 1st, 2006 at 8:58 am
Fascinating. I too would be interested to read translations.
July 1st, 2006 at 9:47 am
Stalin was good man and soviets were good people.But in America there were thieves and bad people!
July 1st, 2006 at 10:11 am
I can translate them, so here are translations:
NO1> Stalin says work as much as you can
NO2> For the honor of people
NO3> Atack now
NO4> Joining of small kolhozs (russian mesurement for land), the way of prosperity in Socialistic country side
NO5> American freedom
NO6> I will win
NO7> Our moto, freedom for all people, glory for the heroes
NO8> All the kolhozs will grow, deputat – man of/from the people
NO9> Comparison of the schools in SSSR (top of picture)and USA (bottom of picture)
NO10> Equality of woman in SSSR
NO11> To whom the incomes go, in SSSR to workers (in left corner: to capitalists)
NO12> Feel free to say what is wrong in production (on work)
NO13> Glory to Stalin the Great
NO14> Every new day is better for living
NO15> Two states, two plans
NO16> They are risein death
NO17> Let live and help each other Soviet and yelow people (Chines)
NO18> I’m looking forward for new ideas
NO19> Wor that good that Stalin says you THANK YOU
NO20> Give your best at work
NO21> Dear Stalin, happynes of people
NO22> no text just picture
NO23> 21 dec 1947
NO24> People does not want peace if it will bring new war
NO25> I work for people
NO26> Speculation – help devil
NO27> Years for prosperity (percent of people that are for unity of states in SSSR and USA) also in left corner is wrtten CRISIS
NO28> With knowledge of LENIN Snipers shoot from distance but allways hits the target
NO30> I give my contribution
NO31> left side (in kapitalism: pathway of ones with flair) right side (in socialism: give chance to ones with flair)
NO32> Europe union: it is clear that price on “unity” for dear is: smile on face, nice words/language, in mind plan, stabed in the back (it is rhyme, but i can not translate it to be rhymed)
NO33> from the beggining of GREAT OCTOREB (october revolution in russia)for the glory of socialistic country side household
NO34> Speculation – devils work
NO35> Great Stalin intimates witd people in SSSR
NO36> Weave better it will be better in the end
NO37> Learn abou great ways of politic party Lenin-Stalin
NO38> WE (SSSR) Make meadow from deserts THEY (USA) make deserts from towns and villages
NO39> Ladle – frend of the soldier
NO40> Soviet court – court of people
NO41> Collect goods of people
P.S. These traslations are correct 95%, because I learned russian language for 8 years but I forbit it leate so I’m not shure for the meaning of few words.
P.S.S. If you need anything else (or any other poster taht you add later) to be translated send it to my mail and I will try to help you.
July 2nd, 2006 at 1:43 am
Super posters! I haven’t seen them for long time of period. I can help with translations, if you want. (I am russian, and I was born in the USSR).
July 2nd, 2006 at 6:12 am
Lordtime, Id also like to see translations
July 2nd, 2006 at 6:25 am
Stalin was the best lider in the world!
July 2nd, 2006 at 11:40 am
Dude, this is amazing!!!
July 2nd, 2006 at 7:45 pm
I’m sorry folks, but don’t be letting your pining for ‘days of yore’ cloud reality. Stalin was NOT a great leader. He was a flawed leader who murdered millions of people. His reasons for doing it are his own, some say he was paranoid, some say it was necessary for the ‘good of the country’ but whatever the reason, it doesn’t change the fact. If you have to kill millions of people in order to enact your policies, then your policies are flawed. The ends doesn’t justify the means and the fact that Stalin’s 5 year plans dragged the USSR into the 20th century and helped make it the power that it was, does not excuse the killings. Lets not forget that…
July 3rd, 2006 at 1:17 am
A long gone era, I also come from an ex socialistic republic, Yugoslavia. We didn’t have the propaganda so far, but the elements were the same
July 3rd, 2006 at 3:02 am
Will bookmark now read later. Will translate for self.
July 3rd, 2006 at 5:48 am
You should ask men in the street who lived there and other ex communist countries. In my opinion, these pictures stand for madness of a an atheistic system where personality cult prevailed with all other foolishness
July 3rd, 2006 at 5:51 am
just ask me
i still live in Ukraine, post soviet country, and i lived in soviet reality, but at the end of soviet imperia!
That was a bit scary and quite different than now. However i see that there are no difference in people’s mind. Mostly methality pays a big role in how country leaders are good or bad and all other valuables!
July 3rd, 2006 at 7:30 am
Stalin was not good but he was not that bad, eve today you have people that fight for theirown goal (that is all he did) once he said:
“People that supports me because of fear I make inchargge to the people that supports me because of simpaty, why? THE FEAR IS PERMANENT, and simpaty can disapear”
July 5th, 2006 at 1:47 am
Great posters, great era. I wish I lived in great country like USSR was.
I’m from ex Yugoslavia.
July 5th, 2006 at 11:18 pm
Haha.
It would be fun to do the real thoughts of the posters’ artists!
What if Shostakovic had been painter and not a composer?
Stalin would be a clown!!
July 6th, 2006 at 9:00 am
Stalin was a madman.It’s a fact! And because of him SSSR was hell!
But not every comunist country was bad.
for example yugoslavia was very liberal!In yugoslavia you could buy anything americans could buy,go anywhere you like, listen to rock,wear jeans,etc.etc.
I don’t have to tell you anything: Which comunist country has ever attack anyone?Which comunist conutry has ever had colony?not even one!So,it makes me sad and angry whan i hear people who have never lived in a comunist country (normal comunist country) and talk everything (bad) about comunism, but don’t even now how is to live in a comunist country…
excuse my english…
July 6th, 2006 at 9:03 am
look, i don’t mean to say comunism is great, but also it is not as bad as western countries are showing it to people…
July 10th, 2006 at 1:44 am
Well, the ideology is no longer relevant today. Older generation just want to leave the past and move on. The younger generations makes them fashionable.
July 11th, 2006 at 12:30 am
One has to separate two things:
—the artistic quality and great art of these “posterists”, this capacity of generating a proletkult momentum- that carries away even today… they were talented in their way… (one can do the same with psoter of the Hitler time..)
AND
—the messages some are just scary (e.g. with boltun..)
AND
— the manipulation and the real state of affairs at that time..
have the posters without the gulags, the “sud naroda”… is better no matter how good the posters are.. and stalin- no matter how talented (and cruel ) a leader- is better under ground in his grave than alive..
how many people have no grave because of his deeds?
July 13th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
These posters are shining examples of an era of social justice and prosperity, cut short by the great patriotic war… You have been taught to believe that Stalin was a monster, as have many. But history, and the grim reality of life in the post soviet world has shown people just how selfless, benevolant and caring a man Joseph Stalin was. To mention but a few of his achievments-
The enormous leap foreward in living standards, industry and agriculture during the years 1924-1941 are enough evidence of what is portrayed in those posters.
Western propoganda has done its work on you im sad to say.
July 13th, 2006 at 5:39 pm
quote-”have the posters without the gulags, the “sud naroda”… is better no matter how good the posters are.. and stalin- no matter how talented (and cruel ) a leader- is better under ground in his grave than alive..
how many people have no grave because of his deeds?”
if you were to add up stalins “deeds” you would find that he among other socialists were (pretty much alone) responsible for the defeat of genocidal german facism..
July 31st, 2006 at 4:44 pm
I am from Russia and am 62 years old and grew up with these posters. Am so very happy those days are behind me and that I am now living in America…
August 17th, 2006 at 10:09 pm
Anyone know about a poster that reads:
“To build, one must know. To know, one must learn.”
It is seen in the TV show Friends, in Ross’ apartment. I’ve been trying to find it online, but to no avail.
August 18th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
The USSR was garbage. If it was so great Russia would have come out with all the economy still intact. The USSR was kept afloat in the 1920s and 1930s by the west. American businesses invested billions into the USSR’s economy at invite from Lenin and Stalin. Aid ships from the USA helped feed the people. All of this is public record now. 20 million were executed. Smarten up. If it was so great than there was no reason for it to collapse.
August 25th, 2006 at 12:11 am
i was born in soviet ukraine and i was well respected and payed
August 25th, 2006 at 12:21 am
just imagine what life would had been like if the soviet union lasted to present time.
August 29th, 2006 at 1:32 am
quote-”look, i don’t mean to say comunism is great, but also it is not as bad as western countries are showing it to people…”
I am a Chinese and I cann’t agree with you more.
September 26th, 2006 at 5:46 am
I AM LOOKING TO BUY SOME PPOSTERS FROM THE SOVIET ERA BUT MORE LIKE I THINK SOVIET REALSIM (MUSCULAR WORKERS WITH FISTS UP IN THE AIR). CUOD YOU HELP?
tX
pIERRE
September 26th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
i think stalin was not a great leader because he killed loads of people.. and communism did’t work at all. he was manipulating russian people by using propaganda
but by using the five year plans he made USSR modern industrial country
October 24th, 2006 at 11:39 am
eh, soso soso. shen unda icve civ micashi da me kompiutertan unda vijde? hapsus ra jeeli iyavi!
we trust in stalin. he was a man, who changed the world. who ruled the greatest empire. AND FARTHER, HE WAS A MAN, WHO HAD ONLY ONE KITEL!!!
euf
January 19th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Just wanted to chime in with my thoughts…
Stalin was a paranoid and inhuman murderer, and it is a great tragedy that the Communist experiment had been hijacked by him. He was however a ‘great’ man, and certainly was a contributing factor towards victory once the Great Patriotic War was underway due to his iron will and cunning.
25 million people died in Stalin’s purges, and the famines created by a poorly implemented collectivisation. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if someone like Kruschev had ruled Russia earlier. Maybe there would have been a little more justice coupled with the strategic genius.
There were many heroes of all walks of life in Communist Russia, but Stalin was a monster behind an avuncular, smiling face. His body lay dead in his locked office for 3 days because none of the party dared barge in, in case it was some obscure loyalty test set by their leader! When they finally did, their first move was to pre-emptively arrest Beria, the head of the Secret Police, knowing that he would do the same. What followed was the saner, wiser rule of Kruschev – a man who could still be brutal (Hungary), but desired the best for Russia.
Thank you for posting these propaganda posters though – they are indeed works of art. My fave is the one of Stalin and Mao shaking hands.
February 8th, 2007 at 10:19 am
I am from Greece. I became a communist whaen I was about 20, some 13-14 years before. Too many reasons for that. But I can recall tht, before the fall of USSR, the world and especially my neighbourhood (the Balkans and near East, Arabia etc) was much more peacefull, with the exeption of Palestine (where Israel did what US wanted to, and still does) and the war between Iran and Iraq (well, Sadam was a good friend of US then…). And the civil war in Lebabon was an attempt of Iasel and US to control more of the area. But, now, Killing is nothing, racism groes, nationalism too, not to mention poverty not only in the ex socialist countries, but also in my country (20% of the greek population according to the official statitics are poor). So, yes, I believe that USSR was better than today (really, those ex USSR citizens who live today in the US, what can they say for their people now that they see them dying homeless and from cold?).
March 11th, 2007 at 11:44 am
Thank goodness, we’re not speaking German today!
March 15th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Astonishingly similar to Nazi posters.
March 15th, 2007 at 12:15 am
-is it true that communism was the greatest experiments of humankind? – yes it’s true, but could you experiment on animals next time, please? –
seriously – I lived through it, it’s bad, unjust, disfunctional, immoral, period.
March 17th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
You people really need to learn some history! Seriously, don’t open your mouth if you dont know what your talking about. Don’t dare disgrace the soviet union, YOUR AMERICA WOULD BE NOTHING, TECHNOLOGY NOTHING!! get on your knees and thank them, or be sent to Siberia and die! You are all western hypnotized. Really d u think the USA is any better?? you dont think they kill inocent peple and jail 2 million people per year. PLZ, ur accusing STALIN and them for INDUSTRILIZING RUSSIA, MAKING IT A BETTER PLACE, WITH COST OF LIVES YES. BUT a true communist would not be a traitor like you, your all disgraces to your past!
EXPERIMENT OF HUMANKIND ILL GIVE U EXPERIMENTS KIDDO, you are so brainwashed, plz dont compare AMERICAN EXPERIMENTS, YEA U CALL THEIR STUFF MORAL?? ILL SHOVE A LCMB UP UR ASS.
I have to get this pissed when i see RUSSIAn traitors, disgraces, deserve to be exiled to Siberia and rot in hell, where all the rest of the americans r going, and hell with you all.
nazi posters, buddy i bet you have ancestors that r german, BUT UR SOO STUPID!, get a brain. and no communism is not nazism, thats just cold war bullshit like u, ur worthless and deserve to get hanged
March 20th, 2007 at 12:08 am
if we travel back a bit i agree with wat nostalgia gone mad said. To all those who say Stalin did great things, well he did in fact do something the czars and others Bolsheviks couldnt and wouldnt do which is turn an agragarian country into a world nuclear superpower in about 25 years, that takes skill. But he did this at the cost of killing over 40 million+ innocents from shootings to slave labor in gulags and other camps (usually is Siberia). He did beat Hitler, but he was also planning on starting a massive world war with the capitalist so hes not good old uncle joe. Then WISE (note of sarcasm) Khruschev and a few other notables had him offed and took over. Staling managed to completely destroy the will and bring fear to a 1/6th of the world and its inhabitants, he was not insane, but he was an evil, merciless son of a bitch with alot of personal problems and serious case of megalomania (tho not an overpowering insanity.) If you think his end (a world superpower which is based of fear, murder, and killing those who oppose you to keep the GLORIOUS system of communisim running) is worth the cost of countless millions of lives and the destruction of cultures and nearly the massacreing of jews (he died fortunatley before this plan could go) and rewriting history, literally, then u are the ultimate pragmatist and stupid dumbass. If you are undecided agree his government sucked and so did communism, but can’t help but look at the benefits he did do for the area and the world (hydrogen bomb, a world technology race) and a powerful Russia (before the USSR) then your in my shoes. Oh the posters are awesome but are a perfect example of PROPAGANDA used to make people think your place and you are awesome, HAVE ANY OF YOU READ ANIMAL FARM, or as a matter of fact any book on Stalin which utilizes information which was not “official” (ie tampered by Stalin and the government to make him look better, or in later cases worse)? Capitalism has its flaws, but it sure as Hell beats communism. if you dont agree spend 20 years in a labor camp in Siberia and tell me if you change your mind.
March 20th, 2007 at 12:10 am
when i said (before the USSR) I meant
when it was the USSR.
March 25th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
all yal r on crack ya noe dat.stanlin was a madman and dat need to be stoped he killed many inosent ppl.so if yal think he still is a good man den bukar off u f.o.b bec really if u all think dta den maybe yal should be thrown in jail and sent off to siberia and be miss treated and exiled.u dim wit dumbshit bumakrts lowlife ugly stanlin wannabes
April 3rd, 2007 at 3:18 pm
Im from Argentina, here, like the rest of Latin america, we had dictators who killed a lot of people in the name of patriotic interst fighting against comunism. They murderer man, woman and childs…. the most of them just workers or students… and all was a US order…
USA kill a lot of people in iraq and afganistan everyday… now they are planing to go against Iran…
USA killed people in Panama, Salvador & Nicaragua….
USA went to Vietnam with all his fucking napalm and killed inocent people… on a war that originally was not against USA…
USA droped 2 nuclear bombs after japan already surrender just to show he`s power to the wolrd…
USA has propaganda on hollywood movies, on CNN and every newspaper…
Everyday millon of people dies because of they have no food… (thanks capitalism)…
So… YES STALIN, killed a lot of people… he was not a saint… but who is?…..
Churchil? Eisenhower?…. Reagan?… BUSH?…
Thanks for the posters…. and pls guys… in this world there are no good Leaders… just victims
PS: EXCUSE MY ENGLISH
April 5th, 2007 at 1:10 am
yeah i know man
brazil rocks
ronaldinho is better than y’ll
loser xD
April 8th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
USSR collapsed because it was too good to be true. Ask the fool us citizens (do not call them americans, america is the whole continen)
I am from Mexico, US people brought shame and pain to my country, they stole half of our territory but that part obviously does not appear in their damn story of civil war, independence, and apollo 11.
And they dare to speak about liberty, SURE PEOPLE! YOU SPEAK ABOUT LIBERTY! WHEN YOU LIVE IN THE ONLY PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE LIBERTY IS JUST A STATUE…
April 24th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Stalin – super star!
April 27th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Stalin is the greatest bastard among bastards, he had a very close relation with Hitler. He and Lenin go to hell as a result. It was him who massacre 30 million people, it was him who become a bloodthirsty demon by powers. He was also a traitor to his party, corrupt the original Marxism (Marxism is never a viable ideology). I hate the poster “Liberty in America”, it reverses the truth, in fact, that poster reflects the liberty of the so-called Soviet Union.
Capitalism and Democracy are the best society that humanity could boast, since it was invented from ancient time, has a deep root in human nature (Although it contains some weaknesses.
I Love Russians and Russia, I hate Russian Socialism and Communism!
Communism and Facism are monstrosities of humanity, are indignities to our civilisation.
April 27th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
USSR COLLAPSED BECAUSE IT WAS JUST A MONSTROSITY OF HUMANITY.
Existing the world map since 1917, apart from its victory over the facism, whad did it contribute to this world, if we don’t count a number of scientists who consistently make new invention to our world. Let I tell you, it contributes terrors to this world, it contributes famine to this world, it contributes loss and damages to itself. It betrayed its original ideology (As you research USSR economy, you will see). A country in which it contradicts its creation, how can it exist when it lost its point of origin.
A country built by dictatorship, built by tears and lives of million people, how we permit such a country exist.
Hei, The Scientist, tell me if USSR is too good, why it collapsed. Its deteroriation in fact has stood out since there is no direct attacks from USA, there is no external factors strong enough to break its “goodness”, why it still collapsed. Over one night the country you call too good fell apart, left behind a mess, a set of disorder factions. USSR’s death did not carry its brutality to its final grave, war within its formers still prolong. That is what you call “A GOOD, AN IDEAL COUNTRY”. You ask who, ask americans, ask French, ask Hungarian (Where I was born), ask Rumanian, even ask Russian, they will give you the same answer “USSR and Communism all gone, they dug a great grave to burry themself 18 years ago, and now, their record filled with crimes and dirty mystery.
What did USA become, yet it still stand like a rigid wall? What did USSR become, yet only within 74 years it falls apart, dissapear like smoke?
Hei, don’t speak of Liberty as if you thoroughly understand it. I don’t really understand it either. But I can tell you one thing, USA, despite of its influence to your country, despite its terror to your country, still the motherland of liberty. France, where the great Revolution occured, struggled itself 100 years to find what it tried to achieve before, whereas USA, where European powers considered as one of the most inferior land, stand up like a great brother protect the definition of Democracy and Liberty and finally force this earth to call its name in every-day conversation. USA, of course it is not paradise, but it was where people of other countries admire and dream of.
Look at the way the USSR imposed their control on my country. What did we do, yet we had never known the word “Liberty” until we kicked out the Communist Party. My country deserved to become a model of Democracy, Capitalism and enjoy wealth that our civilians day and night labour for. What did we do, yet the Russian Communists encroached us, enslaved us. What did the Czechs do, yet in 1968 it was Brezhev who insult my neighbour value. When we could not stand the brutality of Communism, we stood up. Then we endured the suppression of our rotten government, supported by the USSR. We fought side by side with USSR to expel the Facism, and that’s what they treated us after they used us like fruits in a basket.
Hei, don’t speak of Vietnamese war as if you know everything about it. My friends are Vietnamese refugees. It was the Nothern Vietnam who encroached the Sountherners’s country, violated the Paris treaty signed in 1954. What wrong did Southern Vietnamese do, yet they lost their own country. Why did they have no right to become a capital country like many others, could you explain that for me.
Yes, Americans dare to speak of Liberty, yes, it is a statue. But that statue was made by blood, tears, griefs and sorrows from their farthers, so you should see it with a respectful sight. And you know what, while they’re singing the Libery song for this world, We want them to know that they aren’t alone, since, we, Hungarians, love our country like they love USA, like you love Mexico, like we love Russia in our fashion, understand the value of Liberty and Democracy. That’s the only path of our destiny.
Yes, these posters are awesome, but not because of their colour, not because of their contents, but because they are eye-witnesses, they are evidences of a darkest episode in human civilisation.
April 30th, 2007 at 4:27 am
It’s funny that there are still those who glorify Stalin. These people should have listen their own citizens. I met one Russian woman who said that “Stalin and Hitler were like two evil brothers”
People should have listened to Khrushchev who hated Stalin or Gorbachev who wanted to end Stalin’s fame! Gorbachev said that “we cannot glorify a man who killed millions of his own”
Stalin killed Ukrainian people, Estonians, Finnish, Latvians and his own people. Stalin also made a pack with nazis in 1939 but it was called of when nazis invaded Russia in 1941. Stalin also killed his best officers in 30’s so Russia could have lost the war because of that. And that’s why they succeeded so badly in the war of terror against Finland in 1939-40.
Pekka, Sweden
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:44 am
to: HoBaK.
on (July 1st, 2006 at 10:11 am )
Not bad, if you are not a native Russian, though I found a lot of mistakes in your translations. The following are my corrections (in the brackets are my insertion for better understanding what the poster is about), the numbering of the posters is yours, unchanged:
#1 Work like Stalin teaches.
#2 {Vote) for the happiness of the (Soviet)people (pre-election poster).
#3-Forever together!(pictures a Ukrainian Cossak and a Russian warrior of 17 century, the poster was made in 1954, to mark the 300 year anniversary of Russia-Ukrain Union Charter, 1654). your translation is totally wrong
#4 The translation is correct, but… “Kolkhoz” is not a measure of land. It stands for “collective farm” (kollektivnoe hozyaystvo)
#5 “American freedoms” (the poster illustrate how they(in the USA)have freedom of press, opinions, personal (life), demonstrations)
#6 “We will defeat the draught too”.(Stalin with the map of the planned irrigation projects)
#7 (The poster dedicated to the Battleship “Potyomkin” upprising, or mutiny, whatever. There was such an event in 1905 revolution).
#8 “Deputy (elected representative in the legislature (Soviet) of any level) is a servant of people”.
Your #16 is part of # 15 (”Two worlds-two plans”. “We (Soviets)plan for life”. “They (capitalists, the West)plan for sawing the death”.)
#17 “Long live the unbreakable friendship and cooperation between the Soviet and Chinees people” (depicts Stalin and Mao)
#20 “Stay vigilant!” (at you work place), kind of, watch for the enemies, like spies or saboteurs
#24 “The people of the world do not want the distructions of another war!”(against military blocks like NATO)(cited Stalin).
#27 “Years are the same, the results (”weathers”-for rhyme)are different”. The poster compares the economies of the USSR (growth) and the West (crisis, decline)
#28 these are two different posters; First -is a pennant with Lenin-Stalin profiles, the text says: “Under the banner of Lenin and lidership of Stalin, let us head forward, to the full victory of Communism!”
The next poster is a verse about a sniper. “A sniper shoots from distanse, but always hits the target”.(military poster, to be hanged at the Soviet Army clubs, barracks etc.
#39. I like how you translated, but the text says: “A shovel is a friend of a soldier”. (Military poster, means “be able to dig a “fox hole” to cover youself, have shovel).
Well, if someone is interested I could continue.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
Thanks Ignor for your much needed correction. Your translation finally reveals all the beauty of these posters.
I spit blood when I hear “if soviet union was good, why did Russia go bad?”.. It is like asking, if having laws are good, why did people start killing after laws are abolished? Or, if being alive is so good, why do you stink so much when you’ve been dead? C’mon people, Soviet union is what made Russia the great nation it cannot be today. Anyone who refuses to see that is a hypocrite who plans more wars, just like these posters would suggest.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:56 am
The Russians are a very proud bunch. But they’ve got no concept of what individual freedom means (at least those who’ve never been outside of country). They’ve been under a thumb forever. And today is no different under Putin.
The Soviet Union “experiment” (if you can call the murder of millions of its own citizens an experiment) was a gross failure. It denied individual freedom, period, for the supposed glory of the common good (the State) – though in reality it was simply for the glory of central power of that State.
These posters serve nothing but the memory of the cult of personality himself, the man of steel, the pig who sentanced 27 million Russians to die in WWII after signing a pact with Hitler so that he could invade Finland.
Despite being under the thumb of a central power for its entire history, Russia has produced some of the most beautiful bodies of work (art, music, literature) in the history of man. Its people are unlike any other in the world. They embrace their indentured servitude to the state, while simultaneously beautifully create what we in the West think can only come from a free-thinking independent person. (No, dear Russian, you aren’t from the West).
Russia will never be a part of the West. Nor will she ever be a part of the East. Russia is an island unto herself, where slavery to the state will forever be embraced, where freedom will never be fully understood and will be never fully accepted, and where beautiful music, art, literature, dance etc…will continue to be produced, on account of this servitude.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Folks,
Many of you living in the West (not all, thank God, but many) have been badly intoxicated with the Cold War anti-Russian propaganda. Even to the present day. What amazes me most is how easily you Westerners have been readily getting beguiled by your venal mass media! We Russians, too, had our Soviet style propaganda during the Cold War, but we were rather more skeptical about all the anti-western stuff which the communists tried to feed us up with. The reason was that we reckoned Europe to be almost a paradise and the United States to be a full paradise on the Earth. Which is why we did not trust our communists when they used to tell us that there were a lot of hungry and homeless people in the West, that millions of Westerners suffered from unemployment and many even from misery. We laughed at such stupid (as we believed them to be) insinuations.
As we ourselves in the Soviet Union had had no unemployment at all (since 1932!), nor homeless people, nor such misery like some people have today, so we would think: ‘There cannot be unhappy people in the Paradise (i.e. in Western Europe and the USA). We won’t be duped with the dirty communist propaganda!’.
But when the ‘Iron Curtain’ had fallen, and we had got full access to the true information about the Western World we felt appallingly surprised with the revelation that all what the communists told us had proved to be true!
It was a great disappointment!!!
For example, it was really stunning for us to learn that the West had become atheistic without any anti-religious oppressions, while we Russians had retained our Orthodox Faith even through all the trials and tribulations.
20 years ago I myself was a rabid anti-Stalinist. Since then my views have changed significantly, owing to my many-years-long historical researches. In this regard I invite you, folks, to get acquainted with the views of another former anti-Stalinist — a great Russian writer and thinker Alexander Zinoview, on: http://www.russian-victories.ru/zinoviev.htm
Now I can clearly see that all the fantastic fables and scary myths about Stalin and his time are a mere crock.
Yes, Woogie (see his post above) is absolutely right — we Russians have never been, nor we are, nor we will ever be a part of the West.
Thank God — we are Russians!
June 28th, 2007 at 5:16 am
Hey guys! though im new here, i have a question to ask u all..May i now whether Stalin used to have an aircraft to drop posters of propaganda??
Pls reply me soon, this is urgent ^^
June 29th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Absolutely fascinating from a political ideal that I could wish for. I am British, and would love to see Britain as a Communist country. We are a clone of America – inequality, crime, discrimination, poverty. None of these would exist if we became communist.
Bearing in mind I was born during the latter stages of the Cold War, and can remember how communism was perceived as “bad” and Western Propaganda, films like Top Gun, Rambo III, Rocky IV and so on made the Americans heroes and the Communist Russians/Chinese the villain.
I love these posters, thanks to whoever posted these.
August 20th, 2007 at 1:14 pm
As I understand, the USSR during Stalin’s time was a prison. However, the USSR offered the only alternative to the racist policies offered by the USA and the British Commonwealth’s South Africa. If patriotism blinds the researcher, here is a truth… the USSR offered a way for the Latin Americans to free themselves of the racist business practices, they offered a way for black Africa to fight back the racist South Africa government…
It is unfortunate that most USA citizens do not understand how racist and ugly their country’s business practices are, exactly as some of these posters portrayed the USA.
September 4th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
Stalin was a Hero you people know nothing. NOTHING you read your Capitalist/Imperialist propagganda and are so gullible to believe every word you read. STALIN WAS A GOOD MAN! This threatens all you have been taught in your American classrooms Stalin Killed 35 million people BULLSHIT! this number was made up by the American Imperialists they were the enemy it makes sense the Soviets did the same. But the FACTS show that Stalin was a good man yes some people did die but they were traitors, fascists, or Imperialist scum. If what I have said means nothing to you FUCK YOU because you know nothing and should be sent to a Gulag in North Korea. Mao Zedong is a great man also the Chinese people love him and adore him the AmeriKKKan propaganda machine tried to discredit him but it wasn’t possible because Mao was a good man and the Chinese people did not receive Revisionist propaganda denying that fact. The only reason Stalin is a Taboo topic is because he was made into being a monster which simply isn’t true. Thank you
-Kazimir
“Workers Of The World Unite!”
September 15th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
Stalin was a monster. Some of the posts on here are disgraceful. Who the hell cares that agricultural ability improved greatly under Stalin? He killed 20 million people to do it! This monster purged all of his generals and sharp military minds because of “political unreliability”. Most of these folks were innocent, and this paranoid mass murder was almost fatal-lacking military leadership (they were all in Kolyma mining gold, or in Siberski counting trees)Hitler pushed all the way to the Volga. Political whores were in charge of artillery units more concerned with ensuring the unit was sufficiently “communist”.
The lunacy that is communism appears to be making a comeback. Why? It doesnt work! Socialism and Capitalist regimes cannot co-exist. Eventually the ideolgies clash. And most folks dont want live in drab apartment blocs, stand in line for food, and not have access to cable. Communism sucks, guys. Nobody who has ever experienced free will, can ever give it up. And socialism takes free will away, or tries to. It also stifles individualism.
America isnt perfect, but it’s still the best place in the world to live in and being American is at the top of the heap. And we are that way because werent stifled and opressed, we had the free will to make it this way.
September 21st, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Cardina is a great example of American brainwashed masses you think you are free HA! America seems to be free but when you speak out or want to change something you will find yourself in a prison camp. Your American political system is corrupt you try and police the world. you invade countries because you don’t like their leader. Fuck USA
October 6th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
So Trotskij, the Koryaks and all other native Russian ppl (to mention a few) were fascists an criminal scums? I don’t think so! But still they were murded and the natives denied their culture and way of life!
Both Comrade Kazimir and Cardinal4 are definitely brainwashed, each in different ways but nevertheless heavily indoctrinated. I for one wouldn’t stay a day in their Utopias, coz it would be my Hell on Earth. Stalin concluded the treaty with Hitler to split Poland up and Finland was attacked coz they didn’t want to renew the tenancy for Hanko where Soviet had a base. Stalin was a egomaniac brute who didn’t for a moment considered the well of his people. None of the Russian leaders (except Gorby and Peter the Great) have ever had a thought of the masses coz otherwise todays Russia would be a leading power in many fields. It’s my believe and hope that the Russian ppl one day will gain control of their own destiny.
Thanks to the poster of posters and much obliged for the translations.
October 25th, 2007 at 5:39 am
Stalin was a murderer, people were poor, starved and lived their lived in fear.
Peasents lost lands , they were 10 times more exploited then in USA and capitalist countries ( where at least they were paid well ), workers tried to leave and work in USA, and so on.
Just be happy Stalin and communism are dead, and let`s hope they remain that way. Long live freedom, private property and business !
October 25th, 2007 at 5:51 am
One more thing..
Comrade Kazimir, you say we are brainwashed ( i`m not even from USA, i`m from europe )… let`s see :
1) i own a company with 12 workers, working for me… strange, nobody stoped me
2) i can go where i want to spend my holidays ( last summer i was in miami luxury place ).. hmm.. that was NOT possible under stupid communism
3) i can say what i want about anybody
4) i can own lands as many as i want
Under stupid communism i can`t do nothing, but be poor and work work work..
FUCK COMMUNISM !!! STAY THE FUCK DEAD !!!
P.S. : in china there is no real communism, there are business man everywhere, and land owners, LIKE IT SHOULD !!!
AGAIN : DEATH TO COMMUNISM !!!
October 25th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
everyone should just shut up! i mean seriously… anyways cheesecake is really good its yummy and good in all the ways ou can think of, isnt that crazy???? yea well stalin is dead and in hell FUCK IT!
October 27th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
You Capitalist idolizers make me laugh. You have no evidence to prove your anti Stalin claims. You can see though the American propagandist numbers presented to say Communism killed many people. Stalin was surrounded by jealous people that wanted the power and to be the leader of the Soviet Union for their own personal goals. Stalin benefited nothing from being leader of the Soviet Union his only goal was to make the people have a truly classless society but when you have so many enemies and your country gets ruined by war and threatened by American Imperialism then you have to build a strong army and fight against the aggressors. Do you think the Koreans didn’t want a united Korea under Kim Il Sung? You seem to forget that the US set up a puppet government called South Korea. When the Koreans tried to unite the Americans came in and stopped them. For what reason? To protect their interests not because they cared about the Koreans. They just wanted to stop the “Reds” from expanding. And look at the blood on their hands now because of not letting them unite the North Korean people do not have the farming capacity to feed their people after the great floods. Why? Because North Korea is mostly a mountainous region of Korea. South Korea has most of the farm land. You Brainwashed Americans and Europeans would believe its Kim Jong Il and his government starving the people LIES! its US aggression causing the deaths of these people. Unlike Stalin you Amerikkkans only want to protect your way of life and wouldn’t let the revolutionary torch go around the world. Let me name places that you have caused the Deaths of hundreds to Millions of deaths because of your policies. Iran, Iraq, Nicaragua, Afghanistan, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam ,Nepal,Bolivia,Greece. to name a few in the end what is your kill count how many foreign people have you needlessly killed in the name of “democracy” and free market. Stalin had his peoples best interest in mind. Amerikkan leaders have their interest to stay in power in mind. All people are Proletariats in America beside the ruling class. What part of the portion of the population is ruling class 1%! everyone making 500,000 dollars or more a year is ruling class they are making money off the workers hard labor! This is truly the disgusting system. Also Communism is not died their are many movements across the world and revolutions happening at this very moment.
October 27th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE!
October 29th, 2007 at 8:43 am
Kazimir .. i lived under a communist regime also , 15 years ago, and then i was POOR, i didn`t own lands, company with 12 workers, and the luxury car i own now.
So.. LONG LIVE CAPITALISM , AND COMMUNISM, STAY THE HELL DEAD !!!!!!
WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE TO KEEP THE COMMUNISM DEAD !
And Kazimir, i wish you lived in a communist country, to see how it`s life with NO MONEY… what`s the use you are not explited, if you don`t have money to do anything ???
Try spending a summer in hawai or miami, and see the true benefits of capitalist life.
I`m not talking from any propaganda, FUCK PROPAGANDA, i`m taking from experience with my own life.
What do you have to say Kazimir ? Still for communism ?
October 29th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
You were living in bad revisionist country. Communism died in Eastern Europe and Russia after the death of Stalin I am sorry you had to live in the corrupt part of the USSR’s history
November 1st, 2007 at 3:15 am
Hello
Not that i care so much .. but, just from curiousity, if stalin was such a good man, :
1) why did he had his personality cult ? ( this is very SELFISH , to idolize yourself as a god, only tyrans do it )
2) why did he took the lands of the peasents and business from nice business man ? ( i`m a business man, and i would find it very bad for somebody to take my lands, buildings, etc. )
3) why did the peasents starved during the colectivization ?
4) why did they oposed colectivization ? THAT WAS A CRIME AGAINST THE WORKING CLASS !!
5) how about the low wages ? Under stalin, many people from EAST GERMANY passed to WEST GERMANY TO WORK !!! The working class wanted to work in the capitalist countries, because EVEN IF THEY WERE EXPLOITED, THEY WERE PAID 10 TIMES MORE THEN IN A NON-EXPLOATATION COMMUNIST COUNTRY !!!
6) what about the NOT HAVING FREEDOM part.. if you said anything bad about stalin, you would have been shot, the soviet people lived in fear ! That is not a life !
7) And finnaly.. what about the SIBERIAN GULAGS ? Only a monster has goulags !!!
The same questions ( except for 5 ) goes for mao zedong.
I think, without any propaganda, adviced, etc… from my own opinion , that both Stali n and Mao were MONSTERS ! And communism is a blood thursty monster also !!!
I LOVE CAPITALISM, I HATE COMMUNISM.
What do you communists have to answer to my questions ? do you think you can answer them ?
November 2nd, 2007 at 6:57 am
FUCK STALIN!!! He was a dictator and a killer. He killed over 20 millions peoples. That’s makes him a great leader?
You can read a great biography of Stalin on:
http://egzact.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/joseph-stalin/
As Raulsmen said earlier:
“So.. LONG LIVE CAPITALISM , AND COMMUNISM, STAY THE HELL DEAD !!!!!!
WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE TO KEEP THE COMMUNISM DEAD !”
December 6th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Raulsmen, you must vote for slavery and feudalism. The law of these systems would allow much more to you. Can you just imagine the benefits of these lifestyles!
The businessman profession is cheating people. Communism is not for such bad people. Stalin was the best man in the history. He created the greatest public wealth for 300 mln people in 25 twicely building up a new country from the ruining wars.
December 6th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
I just want to add that the posters are absolutely truthful. The capitalism is anti-human system for creatures like Raulsmen, vampires.
December 9th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
I am certainly not a cheerleader for capitalism, being a Trotskyist myself. Capitalism certainly has a LOT of blood on its hands(Slavery, the extermination of Native Americans, violence against labour unions in the 19th and 20th century, colonialism in Africa and Asia, globalization and the rape of the environment today), and needs to be overthrown. Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky were great men, but defending Stalin makes my stomach turn. Trying to deny the millions of people he killed is a left-wing form of Holocaust denial. The evidence against this monster is overwhelming, given the opening of the Soviet archives in 1991. To all those calling themselves communists:
-How can you defend starving 10 million Ukranian peasants to death-men, women, and children- because they resisted Stalin seizing their land, land that they had won under Lenin’s New Economic Policy?
-How can you defend throwing millions of people in concentration camps(gulags)as bad as Hitler’s, torturing and starving and shooting them in the icy wastes of Siberia?
-How can you defend Stalin’s massacre of the entire original leadership of the Russian Revolution, men like Bukharin, Zinoenev, and Trotsky? It would be like if in our own Revolution a leader had risen to power that killed Washington, Madison, Jefferson, and Hamilton.
-How do you defend Stalin’s pact with Adolf Hitler, so he could gobble up a chunk of Poland?
-How can you denounce ‘imperialism’, when Stalin himself engaged in imperialism, forcing pro-Soviet governments on the people of Eastern Europe after 1945?
December 14th, 2007 at 2:19 am
Raulsmen I wrote a very long post about why Stalin is such a hero but it was deleted and a also realized something you being a Capitalist simply makes you arrogant and ignorant to the suffering and slavery of the working class in AmeriKKKa. You are the Ruling class you make money you live the dream that 99% of Americans don’t have have fun with your money but when the people do rise up you and your corrupt business partners are first on the list.
Also COMMUNISM IS NOT DEAD
Their are many movements around the world some are even conducting revolutions as we speak such as Nepal. So shut up because as long as you make your blood money the workers will fight against Capitalist ruling class ran governments all over the world.
December 14th, 2007 at 2:24 am
Samuel all I have to say is you are just repeating like a nicely trained parrot Nazi, Capitalist, AmeriKKKan, Western European anti Communist propaganda that has been feed to you in school and entertainment. Trotsky was crazy his ideas on Communism were Crazy! He was denouncing Stalin because he simply wanted the power. Stalin was a great man all the supposed crimes he committed can be easily debunked
December 14th, 2007 at 2:27 am
Why must you Capitalist sympathizers give me some proof of your arguments so I can simply debunk them? You Amerikkans are so naive to world history please pick up a book that also goes to all stupid people of the world READ! so that you don’t swallow the shitty propaganda that your government read
December 14th, 2007 at 2:35 am
Contrary to a widely held view, communism did not collapse for internal reasons. Its collapse is the greatest possible victory of the West. This colossal victory has created a planetary power. The end of communism is also the end of democracy: our era is not only post-communist, it is also post-democratic.
This is because democracy means pluralism: that requires the existence of at least two more or less equal powers.
During the Cold War there was democracy at world level, a global pluralism within which capitalism and communism coexisted.
Now we live in a world dominated by a single force, by a single ideology and by a single globalist party. The Western countries are dominant but they are also dominated, because they are progressively losing their sovereignty to what I call ’supra-society’. This planetary supra-society consists of commercial enterprises and non-commercial organisms whose zones of influence are superior to those of nations. The Western countries are subjected, like other countries, to the control of these supranational structures. But the sovereignty of nations was a constituent part of pluralism and democracy at world level. The present dominating power is crushing sovereign states. The process of European integration which is taking place under our eyes is causing the disappearance of pluralism within this new conglomerate, to the benefit of a new supranational power.” [Figaro-Magazine, 24th July 1999]
December 14th, 2007 at 7:04 am
Kazimir , i don`t live in america.. i just go there from time to time, to sign up a contract with one of my clients, that`s all… i live in europe. So stop you`re predifined ideas that if someone is capitalist, he must live in USA.
And i don`t care if stalin was a hero, or a monster.. it doesn`t matter, he`s dead, the communism is dead, we live in a new world now. The world we live in today it`s way diferent from the 1917 world, no revolution is possible today, nothing can overthrow the capitalism regime today, because people live a happy life, there are villas, luxury cars, businesses everywhere… , life is way better then the one communism offers, nobody wants communism ( except for some stupid workers, with no studies, no education, that are gealous of people that were smart and knew how to make money ).
Even if the capitalism regime will be changed by revolution, i won`t be here to see it, because this will take a very long time, and it won`t happen sonner then 2-3 life times, so.. i`m very ok.
Capitalism rulles, freedom rulles, business and making lots of money rullez !
Death to communism !
December 15th, 2007 at 6:43 am
your posts really make no sense please pull your head out of your ass you have no evidence to explain your claims and just pick and choose what you wish to respond to. If all you can say is Capitalism= Good Communism= Bad then please stop posting because I get your ignorant point. If you would be interesting and explain your position and why you believe what you do maybe it would be interesting to read not just ” I am Capitalist I make money Freedom Freedom Freedom free market blah blah blah Death to Communism”
December 16th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Ok kazimir, i`ll try to exaplin it to you… In communism , there is no freedom.. you can`t have business, you can`t travel to cool capitlaist countries ( like miami, hawai, etc. ), you can`t own lands, you can`t own a villa (just a stupid apparttment, the state gives to you), you can`t say something about about the regime or the lider ( because you`ll go to jail ).. how can you admire such a world ? Such a tyranhi ?
Under capitalism, i was a worker ( i worked in web development, for a big company ), and i evolved until i opened my small company ( it was just me, and a friend ), and we developed it .. and now it has 12 coders, 4 designers , and the profit from it was enough for me to buy a 52.000 euros BMW and build a villa… also, i used the money to buy a land, with i rented, then i opened a small fast-food store near a students campus, and so on.. there is NOTHING CORRUPTED IN THIS !!! It`s fair work, and fair money… that`s why i love the capitalism so much, because i live in a villa, i drive my sweet BMW , and i can afford what ever i want.
How can communism give people a chance like capitalism gaved me ? I showed you the best example i could, myself.
What do you have to say kazimir ?
December 17th, 2007 at 6:37 am
Also, for people like Valentin.. business does not mean cheating people, business it`s just something THE WORKING CLASS IS TOO STUPID TO DO , only smart people have ideas, open stores, create quality producs to sell, do transport, etc… what can it be corrupted in my having a fast-food store ? Or owning a web development company ? I`ll tell you what.. the only thing disturbing you is that i make in a month more then a worker makes in 3 years… but there is nothing corrupted, i was simple smarter then him, and now i`m getting paid for this, for having ideas and stuff, not wasting time like you do , reading and bragging about communism, and communist revolutions ( that never happens.. kazmiri : nepal sucks, who cares about them, they minority… and when they`ll see the face of communism, they will turn arround very quickly to capitalism ( like 1989 ).
In capitalism, smart people make lots of money, stupid workers live stupid lives… it`s very simple.. communism is for stupid people who are gealous of rich people, that`s it.
Karl Marx sucks, stalin sucks, lenin sucks…
December 19th, 2007 at 7:05 am
Kazimir, Valentin.. nothing to reply ? That must mean you agree with me
, you must see the benefits of the cool capitalist system ( not the gealous-based communism one )….
Kazimir, have you driven an audi last model ? ( i`m not talking about excesive luxury, like ferrari or lamobrhini ) , but a simple 60.000 euros audi … it`s like heaven
, with you`re stupid communist ideologies, you will never have you`re own audi, or live in a villa ( an appartment can`t be called home.. only from villa you can call it home trully, because that`s real life )
Communism is dead, and it will stay dead !!!
December 28th, 2007 at 9:43 am
2 RaulSmen
Soviet leaders was living like kings – they have had a power of hidden monarchy. They was able to afford thousands of cars and planes and be served by millions of slaves.
December 30th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
How nice of them
March 2nd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Disregarding all other aspects of these discussions, a free and public debate, unencumbered by censors and threat of incarceration (at the least), would not have been possible under Stalin. The current thread of discussions would have been very one-sided, indeed.
March 5th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
You socialist bastards
April 9th, 2008 at 9:09 am
The translations that HoBak provided are horrible, actualy every poster says something to motivate people to be a real patriot of his country to do it good and right and has actualy nothing to do with communism, its exactly the same patriotism feeling that americans try to create in their states. Help your country in a good way, be fear and respect rights of all people. Communism accent is only brought in to this because of the cold war politics and dirty games in strugle for more power.
April 9th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Stalin was a bitch, he was not even russian maybe thats why he took it so hard, so be carefull whan you choose Obama, but you dont have to worry the democracy system in america would not let it happen if they dont want to. Great system!!!!
Don’t forget that nothing last’s forever, thats why communism wil come after socialism that comes after imperialism. Imperialism is started already, and as Karl Marx predicted it started after democracy.
April 21st, 2008 at 10:39 am
How anyone can support a beast like Stalin is simply proof that they did not attend school.
Go to adult education, learn to read, pick up a book FFS!
May 20th, 2008 at 8:45 am
we learning about the USSR in history..and i can tell u RIGHT NOW stalin was an idiot. i can’t believe people still support some one who murdered so many people for his own gain. Sure, it’s fine to have a goal and work towards it, but why kill people in the process? It’s disgusting. Stop justifying his actions. And in case u HAVEN’T noticed – communism HAS NEVER WORKED!!!! Work for yourself, but don’t lose touch with your human nature by being greedy. Hope Stalin is burning in hell.Bastard.
May 21st, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Stalin seems scary. i wouldnt wanna live in the former USSR, if he was in control. Every day seems like living hell and i dont wanna live that
May 21st, 2008 at 6:55 pm
Damn i dont really understand communism?!?
my teacher doesnt no how to teach properly. but from what i understand it seems like living hell:(
and i dun wanna live that
May 22nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
The real test of the desirability or stability of Soviet-style communism is which side of the Berlin Wall people were fleeing to, and which side they were fleeing from.
(Here’s a hint: it wasn’t built to keep out the capitalist pigs.)
The same can be said of the USA today. It’s fashionable to claim that the American ideals of individual liberty and prosperity are a lie and that the US is “evil” and “imperialistic” and, let’s not forget, “fascist” (an epithet that displays a complete lack of understanding of fascism), but, it’s funny, everyone and their brother is still trying to get in.
June 12th, 2008 at 5:32 am
Stalin was indid a good leader of his people during his geneation. For us in the so called non dictetorial nations, I am sorry, we can not attain any meaningful development cos we don’t want to dis obey our colonial master. we can not be part of the super power cos we con’t have nuclear station. Americans will never allow us. Kodus to Stalin the Great.
July 1st, 2008 at 4:46 am
Hello people the K.G.B still lives today dont be saying anything bad about Joesph Stalin. Guy’s…
August 3rd, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Are these posters (and maybe other similar posters)under copyright? I mean: is it possible to save them or download them? Otherwise, is it possible to order (buy) some?
August 5th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Joseph Stalin was a great leader. He worked tirelessly for the cause of the revolution, brought the Soviet Union out of the figurative stone age, industrialised the Fatherland, turning it into a modern world super power. Comrade Stalin led the Soviet Union to victory in the Second World War, he came to the resuce of the West, defeated Hitler and saved the world from Nazism. He is the hero of the 20th century and the reason we are free today. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ni/Stalin_1902.jpg
August 28th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Capitalism Rocks!
September 6th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Hey! You don’t know anything about USSR!
I’ll tell you, because I was born there? and them I saw with my own eyes what happened in reality.
When in was USSR everything was censored/ But there were no really pour people, and a lot of really rich people.
For example, you in United States can work whole life and still never buy your own home.
When it was USSR you didn’t have ot buy or pay for shelter, because it was free? and to have you own appartment you had to work aruond 5-10 years and then get it for free. And before that you still had free place to live.
There were no homeless. If a peson worked he never had problems.
I can tell you thousand thing like this that makes USSR country for safe living. But I just don’t have time for that. Just believe me.
Thanks God my mother get her own appartment when it was USSR or unless we would me fucking poor and homeless.
Now ytou can only buy appartment and it’s fucking expensive (watch yourself) and only few people can efford it.
Why the country doesn’t exist any more?
I’ll tell you 1000000% truth! Because of some greedy people who saled themselves to US to destroy USSR. Now they are fucking rich, they own everything in the country that was build with soviet citizens (they didn’t pay anything to buy it, just stole it).
Everything you know about Russia and USSR is mean propaganda. Never listen to it, if you’re not stupid.
I have some friends from US who had opportunity to work in Russia and they understood everything and never believe what they hear in US. And they never voted BUsh.
Sorry for my English.
October 28th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
1. It seems most/many of the posters and their translation do not now match up. I took two years of Russian a long time ago but it seems to have disappeared.
2. some pictures are missing–#35, 23, 9, 26,13, 11, 28.
Appreciate the information. I certainly would recommend the 1996 book entitled “The Black Book of Communism” authored by a group of French writers (did they catch grief from their French communists/socialists).
November 1st, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Hello, I’m from Russia and I’ll tell you one thing. We are two different worlds. We can be friends or enemies, but you’ll never understand us. You live in the black&white world, but the world is more interesting and various.
What can you know about life, if you never chewed the tar?
Chto vy mozhete znat’ o zhizni, esli vy nikogda ne zhevali gudron?
Proklyatye kapitalisty.:=)
November 27th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Let’s calculate the number of deaths during Stalin’s time as head of state, using some data from previously closed archives (Fun Stuff Indeed):
1: Variation in Population = Births – Deaths + Immigration – Emigration
2: Deaths = War + Famine + Forced + Natural
3: Delta Pop = Births – (War + Famine + Forced + Natural) + Immigration – Emigration
We will calculated the amount of deaths between 1926 and 1951,
using the assumption that the birth rate was a constant of 2 000 000 people / year.
Please note that this is an average of the entire Soviet Era, and it is
probable that this number was lower during the famine and World War 2.
We also use the modern estimate of about 4 million deaths due to the famine.
Other Important Numbers:
1- Population of June 1941 includes 20 270 000 in territories annexed by USSR in 1939-45 net of population transfers.
We will consider this as immigration.
2- World War II Losses were 26.6 million; Total war losses includes territories annexed by USSR in 1939-45.
Our equation then becomes:
182 321 000 (1951 Population) – 148 656 000 (1926 Population) = 2 000 000 (Average Births / Year) X 25 Years – ( 26 600 000 + Famine + Forced + Natural)
+ 20 270 000 – Emigration
Notice how some fields are unknown; this is because the information is not directly available.
-36 605 000 = -26 600 000 – Famine – Forced – Natural – Emigration
10 005 000 = Famine + Forced + Natural + Emigration
Now, taking into account the 4 million deaths due to the famine we have that:
6 050 000 = Forced + Natural + Emigration (If Any)
Evidently, forced deaths could not have been too high, otherwise there would have been virtually no natural deaths!
Keep in mind that the earlier industrialization of European countries and the United States of America had even greater numbers of deaths (especially due to colonialism, slave trade and the genocide of the Native peoples) albeit it was on a longer period of time.
If I have made an error in my calculations please correct it and post the corrected equations.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Soviet_Union
Which in turn cites:
Andreev, E.M., et al., Naselenie Sovetskogo Soiuza, 1922-1991. Moscow, Nauka, 1993. ISBN 5-02-013479-1
March 14th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
is it possible to get prints of these? some of them would look great on the wall!
April 9th, 2009 at 7:23 am
no.3 is not ‘attack’ but ‘forever-united’[the ancient attire is of russians and ukrainians].
April 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am
image no.5 is not ‘american freedom’ but ‘freedom-american style’[my corrections are re-post no.9]
April 9th, 2009 at 7:45 am
i was born three years after stalin’s death and remember those types of posters plastered around[mostly in government offices].they elicited nothing but boredom.don’t forget that they hang along posters reminding you to wash your hands and not to litter.